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Posted by sharpgate aussiescrapbookingtop100.com 4/14/2008 16:25:41 Play online chess	Subject: ratings Message: Does anyone know how to approximate a 1700 GN rating to USCF rating? Ron
Posted by chuckventimiglia aussiescrapbookingtop100.com 4/14/2008 19:01:23 Play online chess	You can't!! Message: You may approximate it to a USCF CC rating but not OTB.
Posted by taufiq aussiescrapbookingtop100.com 4/15/2008 00:25:42 Play online chess	... Message: Can someone explain what GN, USCF, OTB stands for ? CC is correspondence chess, right ? Thanks in advance :) ——— On Chess: Computers hardly a threat to game — Some chess grandmasters have lamented that computers take the creativity out of chess, but their concern for the future of the game of chess is off the mark. An excessive use of chess computers undeniably dulls a player's mind - especially if the reliance on computer analysis leaves no room for hardscrabble human inquiry. The games of top chess players such as Levon Aronian, Magnus Carlsen and Hikaru Nakamura vividly demonstrate that free-flowing, swashbuckling creative chess might thrive even more in the age of computers. It is, however, no longer possible to hide behind time-tested lines of play based on years of personal exploration and expertise. Computer analysis usually can ...
Posted by marinvukusic aussiescrapbookingtop100.com 4/15/2008 00:47:29 Play online chess	Translation Message: GN = GameKnot (should be GK) USCF = US Chess Federation OTB = Over The Board CC = Correspondence Chess ——— Queen to Play (movie review) — In “Queen to Play,” a subtle, absorbing film that features Kevin Kline in his first French-speaking role, the only thing that happens, really, is that a hard-working, soft-spoken woman learns to play chess. Seriously. That’s it. Because this “Queen” arrives in Washington at the start of the summer movie season, nearly two years after its initial release in France, that narrative simplicity has a certain appeal. At a time when most pictures are all CGI’d up and Imaxed out, there’s something particularly enjoyable about settling into a film whose pleasures reside in quiet moments, understated performances and the reading of subtitles. “Queen to Play,” originally titled “Joueuse” in French, or “Player,” introduces us to ...
Posted by taufiq aussiescrapbookingtop100.com 4/15/2008 04:25:47 Play online chess	Thanks alot, Message: marinvukusic; things are all clear now :) Geert ——— Vishy Anand able to smile after world title candidates take shape — Vishy Anand can smile. The chess champion's hopes of retaining his crown in 2012 were already boosted when the world No2 Magnus Carlsen withdrew as a candidate. Now the world No3 and favourite Levon Aronian is also out after his tense and nervous play led to missed chances and a 3.5-4.5 loss to Russia's Alex Grischuk. Anand has good form against all four semi-finalists. Gata Kamsky (US), Boris Gelfand (Israel) and Vlad Kramnik (Russia) are from the Indian's 40ish generation, while Grischuk splits his time between chess and poker. Cautious waiting tactics ruled for most of Kramnik's match with the 23-year-old Azeri Teimour Radjabov, as they drew four classical chess games and four rapid. The ninth ...
Posted by sharpgate aussiescrapbookingtop100.com 4/15/2008 06:33:48 Play online chess	Message: this is the issue. 40 years ago when I played on my college chess team I had a USCF rating of about 1500. 40 years later my GK rating is about 1700. Am I getting better or worst? ——— From the archive, 12 May 1997: Deep Blue win a giant step for computerkind — Originally published in the Guardian on 12 May 1997. When Gary Kasparov beat IBM's chess computer in 1989 he arrogantly told the programmers to "teach it to resign earlier". Yesterday, though, the world chess champion found himself humbled by a 1.4-ton heap of silicone in a victory for IBM's Deep Blue that marks a milestone in the progress of artificial intelligence. It is a depressing day for humankind in general. But why did the computer win? IBM's Deep Blue first caused a sensation in Philadelphia last year when it crushed the world chess champion in the first game of their match. "I was rightfully massacred," said Kasparov. Yet he won the series 4-2, striking a blow for the human race at the same time. Game by game, he learned more ...
Posted by chessnovice aussiescrapbookingtop100.com 4/15/2008 06:48:41 Play online chess	... Message: If I were in your shoes, I would take the optimist's route and believe that you are better than you were 40 years ago. That said, I think the GK rating generally inflates the "true" value of your rating ("true" because who's to say that USCF is all that accurate, either?). There's also the possibility that your skill level remained about level. Did you read any chess books over the past few years? Have you gone over many of your games to find where you make mistakes? Do you find yourself noticing more or less inspired moves when you're playing? Either way, if you've played for the past 40 years, I'd find it hard to believe you're getting worse. ——— Chess Champ Kamsky Marches On — The top-seated Armenian chess grandmaster Levon Aronian was the heavy favorite to emerge as the winner of the 2011 FIDE Candidates matches in Kazan, Russia, and challenge Vishy Anand of India for the world chess title in 2012. According to the same scenario, Aronian's opponent in the Candidates Final was supposed to be the Bulgarian grandmaster Veselin Topalov. But both grandmasters are gone now, having lost the Candidates quarterfinal matches. Topalov was eliminated by the U.S. chess champion Gata Kamsky, Aronian lost to Alexander Grischuk of Russia. The semifinals - Kamsky vs. Gelfand and Kramnik vs. Grischuk - resume Thursday and ...
Posted by lighttotheright aussiescrapbookingtop100.com 4/15/2008 21:12:13 Play online chess	Message: OTB is different. On GK, you have more time to make the move. Your quality of game should improve because of less time pressure. A 1500 game played on GK is going to look more accurate on average than one played OTB at the presumed same class level. Some people cannot necessarily translate their skills at GK to OTB, nor OTB skills to GK performance. These are different skills sets that are difficult to transfer. Yet, just playing more accurate more often should eventually improve OTB play. It just takes time.
Posted by fmgaijin aussiescrapbookingtop100.com 4/16/2008 03:30:50 Play online chess	Chessnovice: Message: If you doubt the accuracy of GK ratings vs. other CORRESPONDENCE ratings, check out the performance of Cairo's team of GK players (Peace: The Power That Preserves) in the ICCF team championships (see links on his player page) or Rodog's ICCF performances (see links on his player page).
Posted by chessnovice aussiescrapbookingtop100.com 4/16/2008 04:39:39 Play online chess	... Message: I don't doubt the relative strength of their ratings. I'm certain that Cairo's team is very talented. I just know from my personal vantage point... I don't really believe I play at an 1800 level.
Posted by fmgaijin aussiescrapbookingtop100.com 4/16/2008 04:53:13 Play online chess	Still Thinking "Absolute" Message: Even though you acknowledge in the first clause that chess ratings are relative to the population of the rating group, your last clause shows that you are still thinking of "1800 level" as some absolute. All it actually reflects is your position in a particular population of players, because that is all that Arpad Elo's system is designed to show. Thus, one cannot even compare Fischer's 2800 rating with Kasparov's or Topolov's because they lived in different times and even though they played in the same rating system, the population changed as players aged, died, and were replaced. If you hold a GK 1800 rating across some significant number of games and did not get it via timeouts, etc., then you are playing at an 1800 level IN THAT POPULATION.
Posted by chessnovice aussiescrapbookingtop100.com 4/16/2008 07:08:18 Play online chess	... Message: Good point, that is an inconsistency on my part.
Posted by bonsai aussiescrapbookingtop100.com 4/24/2008 23:53:09 Play online chess	Message: And of course you can add or subtract any number you please from ratings. One would approximately expect a 1800 on gameknot is to score about the same against a 2200 on gameknot as a 2000 FIDE versus a 2400 FIDE (i.e. the rating difference means the same thing), at least if their past performance is indicative of their chess strength. However even if the two ratings measured the same kind of skill (which they probably don't exactly), then it would still not be clear which points on the scales correspond to each other. Of course if the rating were comparable, then one would be able to look at players that have both ratings and possibly be able to figure out a reasonable conversion. However as said before we probably have to expect that CC and OTB ratings simply measure two related, but not identical kinds of past performance.