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premium_steve 52 ( +1 | -1 )
1.d4 d5 2.c4 c5 so, i figure this must not be very good because you never ever see it played by anyone ever.

what's the best move for white here?
maybe i should look into this a bit more and try to figure out some plan that gives black problems.
i don't see anything clear, so far.
neither of the exchanges look particularly strong to me, but i don't know very much.

i think i would play 3.Nc3, hoping for maybe cxd4 with Qxd4 with pressure on d5, but even that leads to 3...e6

ganstaman 29 ( +1 | -1 )
I know next to nothing about the queen's gambit (I don't play 1.d4 or 1...d5), but I recently saw some stuff on the Tarrasch Defense. I think that it goes: 1.d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 c5. It looks to me that your opening will simply transpose into this or a variant of it. I'm not so fond of either capture either.
thunker 93 ( +1 | -1 )
Interesting theory question Steve,
Interesting question - it appears from my limited knowledge & research that white would be best off using his "gambit" pawn (refused by black btw) and liquidate it via 3.cxd5. Black will most likely respond with 3 ... Nf6 but the options are many it appears. ??

Games of higher rated players with this position are few, but here's a couple I dug up....

Kasparov,Garry (2800) - Casares,F [D06]
Galicia sim Galicia, 19.07.1991
1.d4 d5 2.c4 c5 3.cxd5 Nf6 4.Nf3 cxd4 5.Qxd4 Qxd5 6.Nc3 Qxd4 7.Nxd4 a6 8.g3 e5 9.Nc2 Bd7 10.Bg2 Bc6 11.0-0 Bxg2 12.Kxg2 Nc6 13.Bg5 Be7 14.Rfd1 Rd8 15.Bxf6 Rxd1 16.Rxd1 Bxf6 17.Ne3 0-0 18.Rd7 b5 19.Ne4 Rc8 20.Nxf6+ gxf6 21.Nf5 Kf8 22.e3 Rd8 23.Rc7 Nb8 24.Kf3 Ke8 25.Ke4 Rd7 26.Rc8+ Rd8 27.Nd6+ Kd7 28.Rxd8+ Kxd8 29.Kd5 Ke7 30.b4 Kd7 31.Ne4 f5 32.Nc5+ Ke7 33.a3 f6 34.f4 e4 35.Nb3 Nd7 36.Kc6 1-0

Van Wely,Loek (2740) - Hildebrand,Gerald (2100) [D06]
Kuppenheim op g/5 Kuppenheim (2.11), 15.05.2004
1.d4 d5 2.c4 c5 3.dxc5 d4 4.Nf3 Nc6 5.e3 e5 6.exd4 e4 7.d5 exf3 8.dxc6 Qxd1+ 9.Kxd1 Bg4 10.g3 bxc6 11.Be3 0-0-0+ 12.Nd2 Ne7 13.h3 Bh5 14.g4 Bg6 15.Ke1 f5 16.Nxf3 fxg4 17.hxg4 Be4 18.Rh3 Ng6 19.Ng5 Re8 20.Nxe4 Rxe4 21.Bd3 Rxe3+ 22.fxe3 Ne5 23.Bf5+ Kc7 24.Rxh7 Rxh7 25.Bxh7 Nxg4 26.b4 Nxe3 27.Bd3 a5 28.a3 g5 29.Ke2 Ng2 30.Kf3 Nf4 31.Bf5 Bg7 32.Rh1 Bb2 33.Rh7+ Kb8 34.b5 Bxa3 35.bxc6 1-0